What is the best angle for posture in golf?
He found that most tour players and good golfers set up with an angle of about 144 degrees. It was his premise that by setting up the golfer to have this 144 degree angle it would automatically put them in a proper golf posture.
How do you bend your knees when you play golf?
The quick and short of it is: flaring both feet out about 30-35 degrees rotates the knees out, the golfer will be slightly "bow" legged. The knees being oriented outward helps:
What is the proper posture for a bow legged golfer?
The quick and short of it is: flaring both feet out about 30-35 degrees rotates the knees out, the golfer will be slightly "bow" legged. The knees being oriented outward helps: - Turn the hips on the backswing and keeps the hips centered, important for Key #1.
How does the tour angle 144 connect to the club?
The Tour Angle 144 connects to the golf club through a curved piece of plastic that conforms to the grip of the club and interconnects between the golfers ring and middle finger of their left hand. Once you close your left hand the device sticks out of your fingers and the curved portion rests between your fingers and the grip.
nevrino
I also was casting for a long while then I just understood it suddenly and my irons went a long way further. Once you get the feeling and trained some it will become really natural and you don't have to think on it. I voted no.
JetFan1983
I'm now starting to think that the only way I can stop casting is if I actively hold the wrist cock during my downswing. Logically this makes sense. If throwing the wrist angle away is causing me to cast, then holding the wrist angle must stop me casting.
JetFan1983
Hey, if you found a feel that works for you, and you're hitting the ball more solidly, then great! But feel varies from person to person. In my post, I provided some general information along with what feels worked for me and why. But I admit, it's just a feel thing and not something that can magically fix every golfer.
davieboy1872
Something I have been doing recently too is holding the lag, it's working great for every club except the driver. Need a bit more time getting it with the big stick but it will come. As an example, my 8 iron used to be 147 yard carry. I played it today on a par 3 (158 yards) and I flew it over the pin probably by 10 yards.
MEfree
RE the Hall video and the right and left wrists working differently- I was (am?) a flipper and my last instructor had me strengthen the postion (grip) of my top/front hand, among other things. Years ago, I remember being told to ~roughly clap my hands together and shake hands with the club.
JetFan1983
RE the Hall video and the right and left wrists working differently- I was (am?) a flipper and my last instructor had me strengthen the postion (grip) of my top/front hand, among other things.
logman
My experiments with building and holding lag are very much a bitter sweet thing. Sure the distance is improved but I found that it made my golf swing very much on a knifes edge........I mean if my co-ordination wasn't spot on then I'd get all sorts of timing issues, squaring the face or over squaring the face etc.
Harmonious
When I've read about spine angle (rarely), I always thought they meant the posture related spine angle - the one you'd see from the DTL view.
Chicago Lefty
According to the Plane Truth, Jim Hardy prefers to see a one planer lower his spine angle on the downswing. However, the spine angle should never raise.
canadianpro
Most players don't realize how "straight or extended" the spine angle is at P4 and that they are side tilting in order to basically have their belt buckle being the farthest point fdrom the target at the top of the backswing. The more they understand that, the better they use the extension.
cbrian
Keeping your inclination to the ground the same requires the "spine angle" to change. Thats probably the best reason for making the distinction.
Zeph
The only way to bend forward without tilting left or right is by bowing. If you stand straight up and bend to the left, the spine angle changes. That's the thing about the spine (or vertebral column), it is not a two-by-four. It is made up of many vertebrae and intervertebral discs. This give us the ability to rotate and bend it in any direction.
Missouri Swede
Anyway, we showed him quickly how the old advice about "turn your shoulder under your chin" is lame and how he simply had to "side bend" (to continue to use Martin's term) more during his backswing. That would let his left shoulder move downward more, and thus give him more room under his chin.
colin007
have you seen Caddyshack? there are two characters in it names Mr and Mrs Havercamp. watch them and youll see what iacas means by spine angle, head movement, and inefficiency.
Jimbo Slice
I know I can reduce the launch angle of my drive with a club/shaft change and plan to do so, but what swing adjustments can I make to reduce the launch angle?
BWChuck
I just went a tested drivers on a launch monitor for the first time a couple of days ago, and saw that my launch angle was way too low. I noticed that if I widened my stance and set my hips a little closer to the target (at address), my angle increased. Maybe the opposite will work for you.
Jimbo Slice
I understand the swing mechanics and ball flight laws for left to right and right to left. I can even hit a push fade on purpose... sometimes. On the other hand I can't seem to grasp whats going on with launch angle and spin. My drives are almost hitting orbit altitudes, and I'm not really sure how to correct the problem.
Stretch
You are flipping -- the club head is passing your hands just before impact. This causes the club face to lay back, adding dynamic loft to the shot and leading to the moon balls you describe. Changing shafts or going to a lower-lofted driver won't do much to help lower your trajectory. Ultimately, it's a technique issue.
Jimbo Slice
You are flipping -- the club head is passing your hands just before impact. This causes the club face to lay back, adding dynamic loft to the shot and leading to the moon balls you describe. Changing shafts or going to a lower-lofted driver won't do much to help lower your trajectory. Ultimately, it's a technique issue.
bunkerputt
I understand the swing mechanics and ball flight laws for left to right and right to left. I can even hit a push fade on purpose... sometimes. On the other hand I can't seem to grasp whats going on with launch angle and spin. My drives are almost hitting orbit altitudes, and I'm not really sure how to correct the problem.
LovinItAll
I just went a tested drivers on a launch monitor for the first time a couple of days ago, and saw that my launch angle was way too low. I noticed that if I widened my stance and set my hips a little closer to the target (at address), my angle increased. Maybe the opposite will work for you.
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JackLee
1" long and 2 deg. up would usually fit a player with a 37" wrist-to-floor measurement. If that's what yours is, then I would say you need to get your posture and distance from the ball correct. Then you can swing upright or flat or anywhere in between, whatever swing plane works for you.
ControlJunkie
I'm in the same boat, and JackLee pretty much nailed what I ended up with (+1" long, 2° upright). I'm 6'2"-6'3"-ish, and after getting clubs that actually fit, it made a pretty significant difference for me.
rasky44
I'm about 6'2" with a wtf just over 37". I was fitted with 1/2" over and 2º upright for my Callaway X-20's. Not everyone will be the same, as said above, short/long arms/torso/legs and don't forget that irons will come with a different "standard" length and lie.
kehanra99
I might be the exception here. I am just a tad over 6'2" and I've gone to 3 different club fittings.
cruzthepug
I'm 6'3" and have always played with standard clubs, but never been fitted either. I've been playing lately with a guy that's about my height and he just got a new set of Pings and they are +1", not sure about the lie. My question is, if only length is added how much will it effect the lie? I'm thinking about adding 1/2 - 1" with extensions.
jmanbooyaa
Same here. I tend to just grip down a bit on irons with longer shafts. As long as the lie angle is ballpark, we're good - the swing varies a bit every time out anyway.
hero12
6'4", I play 1/2'' longer and standard lie. I have never ever doubted my irons, honestly haven't even thought about it until I read this thread.
gwlee7
Working on seeing the ball from the center of my eyes is something mvmac has had me work on. In doing so, I hit the ball on better trajectory (especially with the driver) than when I lapse into the old way of "looking under my glasses".
sk golf
I heard from a certain someone that keeping a depth perception constant is the most important thing in the golf swing.
carrero77
Great post This information has helped a lot and about all my lower back is much better One question , why the set up is not a fundamental or introduced in the five keys? I have suffered the S posture what has made me impossible to have a good backswing
GaijinGolfer
Great information! IMO, most amateur golfers suffer from slouching at address, causing their back to be rounded instead of straight. Its something that I constantly have to pay attention too and find that when Im suddenly hitting bad shots that its a result of poor posture.
golfballs01
I teach a vast variety of skill levels as well as body types. When it is suggested that you should see the shoe laces or other tricks of the trade, one must keep in mind that these are generalized statements. Without instruction or pictures of one's self, a typical new player will arch their back significantly and be completely unaware of it.
Why do knees rotate inward?
The knees being rotated inward results in a weak/unhealthy position. Like I said in the first post, the left knee should rotate inward somewhat and the knee being "bowed" outward helps keep the knee from collapsing inward. It can also help "engage" the left ankle and quad more, so it gains in flex as it rotates inward.
How to tell if your feet are square?
1. Taking a look at the address positions we can see that on the left my feet are square, this generally rotates the knees inward a little . On the right it's the opposite, feet are flared and the knees are rotated outward a little. The right pic is the position I recommend you copy. 2.
How to make a full pivot?
To make a "full" pivot and keep the head steady (Key #1) the lead knee gains in flex as the trail knee lessens in flex on the backswing. The knees are a one-plane joint and pointing them out slightly assists in turning the hips during the backswing. The trail knee just decreases in flex on the angle that it's set on.
Does the lead knee flex inward?
As the lead knee gains flex on the backswing it also rotates inward a bit. The outward orientation of the knee regulates how much the lead knee can flex inward. On the left (foot wasn't flared at address) you can see the lead knee has collapsed inward.