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why are they leaving the flag in the hole in golf

by Raoul Ratke Published 2 years ago Updated 1 year ago
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Changes brought in the by Royal and Ancient and the USGA, golf's two ruling bodies, amended the rules for 2019. The bodies decided on the alteration because they believe "allowing a player to putt with the flagstick in the hole without fear of penalty should generally help speed up play".

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Can You putt with the flagstick still in the hole?

Prior to 2019, it was a penalty for the golf ball to enter the cup with the flagstick still in the hole for any stroke played from the surface of the putting green. But in the Rules of Golf that went into effect on Jan. 1, 2019, that penalty was removed — it is now OK for golfers to putt to a hole with the flagstick in or out, at the golfer's ...

Why does the flagstick lean away from the golfer?

"With the flagstick leaning away from the golfer, the hole becomes effectively larger; when the flagstick leans toward the golfer, the ball rebounds downward, again helping shots find the hole.

What happens if your ball hits the flagstick on the Green?

The Old Rule: Hitting the flagstick with your ball from on the green resulted in a two-stroke penalty. The New Rule: According to the USGA, under Rule 13.2a (2), “There will no longer be a penalty if a ball played from the putting green hits a flagstick left in the hole.”

What happens if the ball is left in the hole?

If your ball comes to rest against a flagstick that is left in the hole and “any part of the ball is in the hole below the surface of the putting green” then it is holed – even if the whole of the ball isn’t below that surface. If that’s not the case, it isn’t holed and you have to play it as it lies.

How far from the hole do you finish with a flagstick?

What percentage of a putt goes in with a flagstick in?

What percentage of the time is a flagstick straight?

How many times were putts rolled?

Does a flagstick help a putt?

Does a flagstick hurt your chances of a putt going in?

Is it better to leave a flagstick in or out?

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Why do they leave the flag in the hole in golf?

Kuchnicki's analysis revealed two conditions under which the flagstick should be kept in the hole: when the golfer is certain that the ball will contact the hole near the center of the flagstick, and when the golfer is uncertain how hard he or she should hit the putt.

Can you leave the flag in the hole when putting?

The New Rule: According to the USGA, under Rule 13.2a(2), “There will no longer be a penalty if a ball played from the putting green hits a flagstick left in the hole.” Players will still have the option to remove the flagstick or to have someone tend the pin and remove it after the ball is struck.

What is the flag rule in golf?

Purpose of Rule: This Rule covers the player's choices for dealing with the flagstick. The player may leave the flagstick in the hole or have it removed (which includes having someone attend the flagstick and remove it after the ball is played), but must decide before making a stroke.

When can golfers take the flag out?

An interpretation to Rule 13.2a says players are “entitled to play the course as he or she finds it, which includes the position in which the preceding group left the flagstick”. So if they left it at a wonky angle, and you feel that might help you sink your putt, you can leave it as it is.

Why do pro golfers remove their glove to putt?

Golfers take off their glove when they are putting because they want to have a better feel. The golf glove is used to help give players a better grip and more control when they are swinging a club at a fast speed.

How many balls can a PGA player carry?

Under the Rules of Golf, a golfer can carry as many golf balls as they want in their bag. Really, they can carry as many golf balls as they're willing to carry around themselves or their caddie is willing to lug around for them. Most PGA Tour golfers carry in the area of nine golf balls in their bag per round.

Should I putt with flag in?

01 percent of the time. So that's the only time the flagstick will help a putt go in the hole that would not have gone in otherwise. The rest of the time—99.99 percent—the better play is to putt with the flagstick out of the hole.

Can you brush sand off the green?

Yes. Sand and loose soil may be removed on the putting green (see Rule 13.1c(1)).

Can you pull flag off green?

It's common practice once all golfers are on the putting green for someone in the group to ask, "Hey, anyone need the flag?" If the answer is no, the flagstick can be removed and set aside (place it off the green, out of the line of play).

Do caddies keep the flag?

It's a tradition that caddies keep the flag from the 18th green as a memento if their player wins -- especially at a major championship such as the Masters.

Who takes the flagstick out of the hole?

1. It's important to realise that if the flagstick is in the hole and anyone stands near it, they are deemed to be attending the flag (unless requested otherwise by the player concerned) and therefore responsible for it until the ball comes to rest.

Can you switch balls when putting?

You can also substitute a different ball any time you are taking relief, including both free and penalty relief. Unless the one-ball Local Rule is in effect, the substituted ball could be any brand. On the putting green however, when you mark and lift your ball, you must replace that same ball to finish out the hole.

Should you putt with the flag in?

In a statement on its website, The USGA says there “should be no advantage in being able to putt with the unattended flagstick in the hole.” It continues by saying that “In some cases, the ball may strike the flagstick and bounce out of the hole when it might otherwise have been holed,” while “in other cases, the ball ...

What happens if a golf ball bounces out of the hole?

According to the USGA Rules, when a golf ball bounces out of the hole, it is not considered a 'holed ball'. The ball must be played from where it came to a full stop after bouncing out of the hole.

Can you pull the flag for a chip?

If you have the ability to control the speed of your chip shots once it hits the green then you might as well pull the flagstick to allow the ball to use the maximum circumference of the hole.

Can you chip from the green?

It is legal within the rules of golf to chip on the green. The USGA says that you can use any club in your bag from any location on the golf course. This means that if you want to hit your chip from one side of the green to the other, you can do so.

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Golf flagstick rules: Everything you can (and can't) do with the pin

But while ‘Leaving Flagstick in Hole’ is an important part of Rule 13, it’s only part of six whole pages in the Official Guide to the Rules of Golf that cover what you can and can’t do with the pole.So let’s get stuck in… Leaving it in. You all know you can make a stroke with the flagstick in the hole, whether your ball is on or off the green, and the ball in motion can hit the ...

Why does a putt lose energy?

The reason for this effect is that a significant amount of energy is lost from a putt’s speed when the ball hits a fiberglass flagstick. The speed-loss enables gravity to pull the slower moving ball down into the hole more often.

How much space is left between the cup and the pin?

If you look at the space left for a golf ball, the 2.125” half-hole minus the 0.25” half-pin, leaves 1.875” between the cup edge and the pin.

How to make you feel better about leaving the pin in?

To make you feel better about leaving the pin in, think about how many long putts and chips you’ve seen crash into the pin and still stay in the hole. If you’re watching golf on TV, you’ve also seen several shots fly into the hole directly from the fairway and stay in.

What happens if you hit the pin in the third scenario?

If your putt hits the pin in the third scenario, there’s no penalty (former ly two strokes or loss of hole). It’s a major change in the name of speeding up play.

How wide is a pin hole?

Assuming the pin is securely in place, standing vertical and not swaying in the wind, the hole is 4.25” wide.

Can you putt with a flagstick in the hole?

In a statement on its website, The USGA says there “should be no advantage in being able to putt with the unattended flagstick in the hole.”. It continues by saying that “In some cases, the ball may strike the flagstick and bounce out of the hole when it might otherwise have been holed,” while “in other cases, the ball may hit ...

What does it mean to leave a flagstick in?

Leaving the flagstick in means you can ram in some short putts, taking break and doubt out of them. (But be careful — one firmly-struck missed putt can zip by!) Where this rule can more reliably help you is in pace of play. No longer do you have to feel a twinge of guilt for tapping in without first removing the pin.

Why was the flagstick rule changed?

Because most golfers don’t play with caddies, the process of taking the flagstick out to putt out can delay play , and the USGA added that it does not anticipate the rule resulting in a scoring advantage.

What is the new rule for putting greens?

The New Rule: According to the USGA, under Rule 13.2a (2), “There will no longer be a penalty if a ball played from the putting green hits a flagstick left in the hole.” Players will still have the option to remove the flagstick or to have someone tend the pin and remove it after the ball is struck.

What is the penalty for hitting a flagstick?

The Old Rule: Hitting the flagstick with your ball from on the green resulted in a two-stroke penalty. The New Rule: According to the USGA, under Rule 13.2a (2), “There will no longer be a penalty if a ball played from the putting green hits a flagstick left in the hole.”.

Who sees the pin as a helpful ally?

Bryson DeChambeau sees the pin as a helpful ally.

Can you putt with a pin in golf?

Yes, as far as these things go. It already has been controversial! The headlines thus far have come from Bryson DeChambeau, who announced to GOLF.com last month that he intends to putt with the pin in. “It depends on the COR, the coefficient of restitution of the flagstick,” he said.

Leaving it in

You all know you can make a stroke with the flagstick in the hole, whether your ball is on or off the green, and the ball in motion can hit the flagstick, there’s no penalty and you play it as it lies.

Taking it out

Some like it in, some like it out. This is what happens when you opt for the latter under Rule 13.2b. Again, you decide before you make the stroke and either have it taken out or you authorise someone to attend it.

The ball is resting against the flagstick

Well, is it holed or isn’t it? It depends, but Rule 13.2c is pretty clear on the matter. If your ball comes to rest against a flagstick that is left in the hole and “any part of the ball is in the hole below the surface of the putting green” then it is holed – even if the whole of the ball isn’t below that surface.

What happens when a flagstick leans toward the golfer?

"With the flagstick leaning away from the golfer, the hole becomes effectively larger; when the flagstick leans toward the golfer, the ball rebounds downward, again helping shots find the hole.

Who said putting with the flagstick in is an advantage?

Respected golf instructor and former Nasa researcher Dave Pelz says putting with the flagstick in IS an advantage. 3. Adam Scott has been putting with the flagstick in so far in 2019 Credit: Getty Images - Getty. He said: "When the flagstick leans either slightly toward the golfer or away, the odds of it helping to keep the ball in ...

Why did the rules change in 2019?

The bodies decided on the alteration because they believe "allowing a player to putt with the flagstick in the hole without fear of penalty should generally help speed up play".

Can you putt with a flagstick in the hole?

As of the start of the 2019 calendar year, golfers of all levels can now putt with the flagstick left in the hole. Caddies can also take the flag out or have it attended - previously the only two options.

Why remove flag stick from golf ball?

Removing the flag stick gives you clear access to the hole and ensures that the stick does not become an obstacle to dropping your ball into the cup. You don't for example have to worry about your ball hitting the stick and bouncing out of the hole which can be very frustrating. On the other side of this same coin however, if you hit your ball a little bit too hard, you might be happy to have the flag stick in the way to stop it from rolling straight across the cup and on across the green.

Why do you put a flag stick in when putting downhill?

For example, if you are putting downhill you might like to leave the flag stick in to help prevent your ball from rolling on past the hole. Similarly, if you are putting uphill you might prefer to take the stick out to prevent your ball from hitting it, bouncing back and rolling right back down to where you started. It's your call.

How far from the hole do you finish with a flagstick?

There was no difference in the distance from the hole between the two scenarios. Whether the flagstick was in or out, putts finished about two feet from the hole. With the flagstick out, the misses were slightly closer (23.6 inches) than with the flagstick in (25.7 inches). With the flagstick in, 56 percent of the putts finished past or in the hole. With the flagstick out, 39 percent of the putts finished past or in the hole. Here is a chart for how putts finished in the two scenarios.

What percentage of a putt goes in with a flagstick in?

The average with a flagstick in was 45 percent, as high as 61 percent with the fiberglass pin and as low as 36 percent with the dual-diameter pin. In general then, a putt that would have struck the flagstick off-center is twice as likely to go in with the flagstick out as it is with the flagstick in.

What percentage of the time is a flagstick straight?

Using a Matlab script, he calculated the probability density function and concluded that this theoretical “really good putter” is hitting the flagstick straight on only 27.6 percent of the time.

How many times were putts rolled?

Putts were rolled six at a time during various scenarios and speeds. Those included:

Does a flagstick help a putt?

So that’s the only time the flagstick will help a putt go in the hole that would not have gone in otherwise. The rest of the time—99.99 percent—the better play is to putt with the flagstick out of the hole.

Does a flagstick hurt your chances of a putt going in?

The facts of his study suggest the opposite, that the flagstick does much, much more to hurt your chances of a putt going in than help turn a bad putt into a made one.

Is it better to leave a flagstick in or out?

Leaving the flagstick in may have some benefits but from a physics standpoint, there is zero evidence to suggest that the flagstick helps in any but the rarest of situations. What the flagstick may do is occasionally reduce the length of a second putt and therefore possibly help reduce three-putts. Of course, it also will clearly and substantially reduce the number of one-putts. It’s also clear from our research that the fiberglass type of flagstick is the least detrimental (but still nowhere near as good as taking the flagstick out). Finally, there is some evidence that tour players putting on really fast greens may benefit slightly because the ball may be rolling slower as it comes in contact with the pin. This benefit however remains miniscule compared to the benefit of pulling out the flagstick completely. Perhaps the best benefits to leaving the flagstick in are the optics and distance perception. Several sports vision experts we contacted suggested there would be such benefits especially from longer distances, and noted putting instructor Mike Shannon said his research suggested players read greens better because the flagstick acted as a plumb line. So the obvious solution might be to have the flagstick attended. In other words, a return to the preferred method from before the new rule was enacted. We shall see if tour players will see this data and change their minds.

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