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why leave flag pole when putting in golf swing

by Jamil Muller Published 2 years ago Updated 2 years ago
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The test results were conclusive: You will hole a higher percentage of putts when you leave the flagstick in. The reason for this effect is that a significant amount of energy is lost from a putt’s speed when the ball hits a fiberglass flagstick. The speed-loss enables gravity to pull the slower moving ball down into the hole more often.

The test results were conclusive: You will hole a higher percentage of putts when you leave the flagstick in. The reason for this effect is that a significant amount of energy is lost from a putt's speed when the ball hits a fiberglass flagstick.Jan 2, 2019

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Why do golfers putt at the flagpole?

To me it is simple, it is easier to Putt at an object, the Flagpole, rather than a hole in the ground. Why do he Putt at a tee, or a glass on the carpet, because it is easier to visualize a strike against something rather then at nothing. To me it is simple. Reply DB 3 years ago Agreed.

Do you prefer the flag left in or out in golf?

Personally, I prefer the flag left in when the putt distance is over 20 – 30 feet or changes levels. Other than that, “out please”. Not sure the objective of speeding up play has been acheived though. I’ve played in a number of 4 balls in comps where (usually) one person wants the flag left in all the time.

Why do they putt with flags on the Greens?

The flag has the potential to give the golfer a better visual reference for the distance of the put. A couple of years ago I played a late fall round of golf and the flags were removed from the greens.

Should I leave the flag pin in my putt?

Tony, the data supports leaving the flag in, uphill or down hill, 6 fort putt or 30 foot…fewer strokes period. I hope leaving the pin in over time doesn’t drive amatuers and hacks to use the pin to retrieve thieir made putt, resulting in damage to the cup it self so the pin leans to one side.

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Is it better to leave the flag in when putting?

That's . 01 percent of the time. So that's the only time the flagstick will help a putt go in the hole that would not have gone in otherwise. The rest of the time—99.99 percent—the better play is to putt with the flagstick out of the hole.

Do you have to remove the flag in golf?

It's common practice once all golfers are on the putting green for someone in the group to ask, "Hey, anyone need the flag?" If the answer is no, the flagstick can be removed and set aside (place it off the green, out of the line of play).

What is the flag rule in golf?

Purpose of Rule: This Rule covers the player's choices for dealing with the flagstick. The player may leave the flagstick in the hole or have it removed (which includes having someone attend the flagstick and remove it after the ball is played), but must decide before making a stroke.

Can you leave pin in hole when putting?

The New Rule: According to the USGA, under Rule 13.2a(2), “There will no longer be a penalty if a ball played from the putting green hits a flagstick left in the hole.” Players will still have the option to remove the flagstick or to have someone tend the pin and remove it after the ball is struck.

What percentage of a putt goes in with a flagstick in?

The average with a flagstick in was 45 percent, as high as 61 percent with the fiberglass pin and as low as 36 percent with the dual-diameter pin. In general then, a putt that would have struck the flagstick off-center is twice as likely to go in with the flagstick out as it is with the flagstick in.

Does a flagstick hurt your chances of a putt going in?

The facts of his study suggest the opposite, that the flagstick does much, much more to hurt your chances of a putt going in than help turn a bad putt into a made one.

Why does a putt lose energy?

The reason for this effect is that a significant amount of energy is lost from a putt’s speed when the ball hits a fiberglass flagstick. The speed-loss enables gravity to pull the slower moving ball down into the hole more often.

How to make you feel better about leaving the pin in?

To make you feel better about leaving the pin in, think about how many long putts and chips you’ve seen crash into the pin and still stay in the hole. If you’re watching golf on TV, you’ve also seen several shots fly into the hole directly from the fairway and stay in.

What happens if you hit the pin in the third scenario?

If your putt hits the pin in the third scenario, there’s no penalty (former ly two strokes or loss of hole). It’s a major change in the name of speeding up play.

Can you putt with a flagstick in the hole?

In a statement on its website, The USGA says there “should be no advantage in being able to putt with the unattended flagstick in the hole.”. It continues by saying that “In some cases, the ball may strike the flagstick and bounce out of the hole when it might otherwise have been holed,” while “in other cases, the ball may hit ...

Leaving it in

You all know you can make a stroke with the flagstick in the hole, whether your ball is on or off the green, and the ball in motion can hit the flagstick, there’s no penalty and you play it as it lies.

Taking it out

Some like it in, some like it out. This is what happens when you opt for the latter under Rule 13.2b. Again, you decide before you make the stroke and either have it taken out or you authorise someone to attend it.

The ball is resting against the flagstick

Well, is it holed or isn’t it? It depends, but Rule 13.2c is pretty clear on the matter. If your ball comes to rest against a flagstick that is left in the hole and “any part of the ball is in the hole below the surface of the putting green” then it is holed – even if the whole of the ball isn’t below that surface.

Why is my putt short with the flag in?

The reason the putt is short with the flag in is because golfers are unsure how far the ball will roll past the hole if it doesn’t drop so they hit it lighter. But with the flag in you can hit it harder knowing it will not go as far if you hit a little hard and the results show that it will probably go in . Alex .

Why leave the flagstick in?

Leaving the flagstick in also keeps the ball closer to the hole on misses. The less rigid flagstick has the highest make % and least distance after a miss. The most rigid flagstick is still an advantage for both makes and misses vs. flagstick out.

What is the difference between flag type 1 and flag type 2?

Flag type #1 is less rigidand absorbs more energy from the ball on contact. Flag type #2 is more rigidand absorbs less energy from the ball on contact.

What is a flagstick in golf?

‘The flagstick is a moveable straight indicator, with or without bunting or other material attached, centred in the hole to show its position. It must be circular in cross section.

What is the rule for a ball resting against a flagstick?

Rule 17-4 – Ball Resting Against Flagstick states that: ‘When a player’s ball rests against the flagstick in the hole and the ball is not holed, the player or another person authorised by him may move or remove the flagstick, and if the ball falls into the hole, the player is deemed to have holed out with his last stroke; otherwise, the ball, ...

What does the rules say about taking the flagstick out?

What do the Rules of Golf say about taking the flagstick out? The answer is in Rule 17-1 – Flagstick Attended, Removed or Held Up. ‘Before making a stroke from anywhere on the course, the player may have the flagstick attended, removed or held up to indicate the position of the hole’.

When a flagstick is not attended, removed or held up, it must be attended, removed or held up?

The only really important thing you need to be aware of is that: ‘If the flagstick is not attended, removed or held up before the player makes a stroke, it must not be attended, removed or held up during the stroke or while the player’s ball is in motion if doing so might influence the movement of the ball’.

When is the flagstick unattended?

The flagstick in the hole, unattended, when the stroke has been made on the putting green. Being the Rules of Golf, there is of course an exception: When the flagstick is attended, removed or held up without the player’s authority – see Rule 17-2.

What is the 17-2 rule?

You can read Rule 17-2 – Unauthorised Attendance and the penalties for breaching it here. I will however cover Rule 17-3 – Ball Striking Flagstick or Attendant as that is something that does happen quite frequently on the golf course.

What happens if you hold a flagstick in a hole?

Note 1: If the flagstick is in the hole and anyone stands near it while a stroke is being made, he is deemed to be attending the flagstick. Note 2: If, prior to the stroke, the flagstick is attended, removed or held up by anyone with the player's knowledge and he makes no objection, the player is deemed to have authorized it.

What happens if you don't hold up a flagstick?

If the flagstick is not attended, removed or held up before the player makes a stroke, it must not be attended, removed or held up during the stroke or while the player's ball is in motion if doing so might influence the movement of the ball. Note 1: If the flagstick is in the hole and anyone stands near it while a stroke is being made, ...

Can you get penalized for flagstick?

Unfortunately you would actually incur the penalty unless it was intentional. If it is intentional and they tried to influence your ball or force you to get penalized then they will be disqualified. Hopefully that helps clear up some of the common misconceptions when it comes to dealing with the flagstick.

Should you leave the pin in when you are off the green?

So make sure that you are clear when you are off the green that you want someone to tend it and pull it as your ball nears. In most cases unless you really think you are going to make it or at least have a chance to, it's probably best to leave the pin in.

Can you putt a 40 yard pitch shot?

Short chips around the green or putts from the fringe can be made whereas a 40 yard pitch shot most likely won't be. Something to note is that if someone is not tending the flag when you putt, they can't run up there and tend it after you have struck your putt if they think you are going to hit the flag.

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